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Andy ngo jordan peterson1/15/2024 ![]() Is antifa real in the way it’s presented by right wing media, politicians, and commentators? No. As much as people want to theorise on how others are denying the existence of these things as part of some greater moral or social game where they would lose points for admitting they exist, it’s mostly just the fact that none of them actually exist in the form they’re most often presented. ![]() ![]() It's meaningless gobbledy# to the rest of us. I treat "Antifa" like I treat "mainstream media", "fake news", "woke (left)/woke-ism", "cancel culture", "Critical Race Theory", "Laurentian elites": just another right-wing shibboleth. I didn't see Fuzz's earlier post until after I'd made mine: So to me (at least), it's extremely hypocritical to hear right-wing extremists and their enablers to focus continually on Antifa, while not sounding alarms about the much larger, more organized and more violent extreme alt-right. It's a lazy way for people to dismiss anybody who has an opinion they don't like. It's frustrating that anybody who disagrees with Freedom Protesters, alt-right etc are all lumped as Antifa. There is nothing for Antifa like Fox News, Rebel Media, etc. Not only in members, but also reach of their message. ![]() the alt-right / freedom gang, Antifa is miniscule. If you compare the total size of Antifa vs. In contrast, Alt-right has invaded the US capitol, shut down cities and towns in Canada, raising militias, infiltrated the military and policing and taken over major right-wing political parties.Ģ. Antifa has resulted in very minor, localized violence and have almost no impact on politics anywhere. the Alt-right/Freedom gang, it's apples and oranges. I think the salient points in the Antifa situation are that it's nothing compared to extremism on the right, and those most concerned about Antifa are right-wing extremists.ġ. There are likely violent activist groups on the left with similar goals or ideals, but the coordination between them is suspectĪntifa is totally used a a bogeyman to infer that there is some overarching mastermind to these events - who are probably organized by George Soros or some cabal of lizard people. It's arguably similar to a political movement in the same way "anti-immigrant" groups are a movement. The idea is that "Antifa" exists as some organizational entity similar to the KKK or Proud Boys that have leaders and hierarchies. There have been anarchists and left wing organizations for centuries. I don't think people reject the idea of violent people on the far left. It’s like they’d be conceding points in some kind of game. I don’t understand why some people are so stubbornly opposed to recognizing there are violent, bad actors on the extreme left. The group responsible have a website, where they give instructions on carrying out public violence. like they were X-Wing pilots being hounded by imaginary Tie Fighters.Īnti-fascist / black bloc protestors threw bottles and shot fireworks at police in Quebec City a few years ago, then assaulted two Global News journalists. There were recent video/streams of the Freedumb Convoys where the truckers were calling out on their CB radios "antifa vehicles on my 6, keep your head on a swivel!" etc. It's similar to how authoritarian leaders like Putin and Hitler invent or puff up certain groups as a pretext for ethnic cleansing or war. Having these made-up enemies is a tactic which also makes it easy to label and accuse any individual that doesn't agree with their beliefs as being part of antifa to instantly judge and ostracize them. ![]() The radical elements that might walk under those banners are more or less fringe anarchic individuals that would march under plenty of other names but there is no real organized alt-left militant structure that is combating them as their fear game requires. Same with BLM which they equate to a modern Black Panther Party. Sometimes I wonder if "Antifa" even exists anywhere outside of these people's heads.Īntifa is a bogeyman invented by the alt-right, because they need to see their enemies as organized and perceivable threats to continue generating the fear necessary for their grift job. ![]()
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